All but two sources were written before the internet was widely available, and the most recent one is a book by a SBT lover! You do know you can spend an hour on research, then the other 23 hours doing something more productive right? A breeder breeds for the quality, for you not to be a dog breeder then you must not know. you are too closed minded.i didn't publish your second comment because you violated my comment policy - see above. and the 3 breeds you mentioned can reliably be lumped into one term, ie type or category the same as goldens, labradors, flat coateds and chesapeake bays can all be lumped into the RETRIEVING group. nothing bogus about the ATTS blog, follow the links stupid. While it is too late for many children, hopefully many will be saved in the future. Almost ANY breed of dog could be named or be known as a "nanny dog." The list FAR exceeded the maximum number of characters allowed in comments. My dog has done nothing wrong but i still get comments about her... a few months ago some guy threatened to shoot her.. why you ask? "Oh my Beagle is a great hunting dog." @ Cory:You sure do love to change the topic don't you? - no personal document with those images. It is a shame when they bring their children into it. "Breeder Kathy Thomas, president of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier Association said, 'We're aware of the fighting - there's a lot of it in the Hamilton area. ?You don't think any pit bull is good? in which he explains that in the middle of the 19th century, fanciers began to breed bull terriers as "a gentleman's companion" and began showing them in the ring. Yes! End scene. provide links if you'd like. ONLY people who own pit bulls can study them or have an opinion about them. You sir, are ignorant. You have repeatedly failed to show much of it. but not every breed can be dangerous to the level of a pit bull. and your image of dogs in films could be jaded by pit bulls. One hundred years ago people were dumber about germ theory, but they'd already lived with dogs for about 14,000 years by then. There is no kennel club recognized breed currently called the "english staffordshire terrier" or the "staffordshire terrier" as far as I know. did you know The RSPCA want to rebrand the dogs as loving, loyal and friendly....sounds a bit like a nanny dogI am from the UK and you need to get your facts right1 stafforshire pit bull banned under the 1991 Dangerous Dogs Act. You do not know the history of the individual dog and you do not know if it was a well loved family dog. Which further solidifies the fact that pit bulls are different than other game breeds. No... You can try and excuse that by saying pit bulls have a large prey drive; but so do other hunting dogs and they've still not managed to maim or kill ad many people as pit bulls have.When it comes to canine racism it doesn't exist because the dogs can't comprehend any level of prejudice, discrimination, or "racism" that's been pushed on them. WOW, really? There are a lot of "truth about pit bulls" returns. The Stafford we know today quickly becomes a member of the family circle. She was not only a doting and caring owner, she was EDUCATED by BAD RAP on the proper handling of pit bulls. any true pit bull owner will say what i said because guess what, us pit bull owners are a fighting bunch. if you can't control it, if you can't prevent it from attacking another dog or a horse, then you shouldn't be able to own it. 2 staffordshire bull i quote from Wikipedia... "Staffordshire Bull Terrier is one of only two breeds from over 190 recognized by the UK Kennel Club to have a mention of the breed's suitability with children. jeremy1978, regarding your comment that you can only truly understand pit bulls by having direct experience with them. Small children and unknown humans are much more likely to elicit a deadly response because they dog does not understand what or why the human is acting as they do. Your kind cannot even practice what they preach. I'm a APBT owner, and i AM damn proud of it. I don't think I've written anything that isn't factual. Because of my dog's body, she has a hard time stopping on a dime after she's started to run and we have to warn my niece to keep out of the way lest she gets knocked over. hey had been perhaps the most popular dog in England, until they were recently supplanted by the Fox Terrier. It is a lie. Like all the other abused pit bulls. People will not begin abandoning their beloved dogs and running from the pit bulls. "I expect pit bulls to be bred as tame family pets if they're going to be kept as such. The pit bulls' army is made up of a handful of elite pit bull advocates like the sinister Jane Berkey, Ledy Vankavage, Cydney Cross, Karen Delise, Donna Reynolds, Dawn Capp and Diane Jessup who orchestrate the campaign for thousands of dedicated gullible drones that perform the grunt work; infecting the internet with the rote memorization of fabricated talking points. dispelling the nanny myth is similar to dispelling the god myth. "Let's put it in retrospect, a dog is a gun, they has the capability to kill. I can say that several people here would sooner cooperate if people were responsible about the problems they face with this breed and stopped trying to remove laws that ensure a safer community. I can assure you that pit bull owners back then acknowledged that their dogs were savage, saw them as prizes like a trophy horse, but were also family pets; SOME of them. "Pitbulls are similar to the American Akita in that they were bred to have strong prey drives. "A dog IS NOT a gun... dogs have brains; something you seem to lack. They are truly lovely, remarkable animals. the issue here is the pit bull's insane prey drive.if you read the craven desires blog, you will see that i come at the pit bull problem at its foundation: animal aggression. also you should know that comments do not require approval on blogs that are less than 4 days old on craven desires.in response to your comment, i think you are just being a pain in the ass and sound like a pit nutter with these questions/comments. That means the pit bull has beaten out those three breeds by a 97% increase in the individuals who attack. Both are notably friendly with children (honestly, with everyone), and neither is at all aggressive with other dogs. Everyone with me?Great job! I mean, they do realize that this term grew from different people referring to their own INDIVIDUAL dogs as nanny dogs, right? Speaking of which, think you will do research on the pit bull holocaust? they have never made an aggressive move toward anyone or any other dog. So much work. poor stacey, you are very confused about temperament, pete, please read the the truth about the ATTS. And I've noticed that as well... the providence of proof that is; or lack thereof.We shall see what evidence they will provide of their claims, even though most of her rant has absolutely nothing to do with the nanny dog topic we're handling. Rent those books, and scan in the pages in which the breeder mentions that pit bulls were good companion dogs for children. It took me all of 10 minutes to find records from a breeder that was breeding specifically for ranch dogs in 1905. The whole purpose of Schutzhund and the models based off of it were made to train GSD and their cousin the Belgian Malinois. The Machiavellian like army of pit nutters need only drown out the opposition, regardless of the fact that their arguments completely lack any substance or merit. Nanny dogs? Thing is, it isn't our responsibility to act in a manner your dog understands, it your responsibility to ensure your pet, that you are legally responsible for, does not harm another human being, for any reason short of defense of your home. thanks.dogsbite.org is covering this bizarre "accident". I grew up with a dog that was half poodle, half terrier- cute, charming, lovable, seemingly harmless, but who bit anybody who seemed to threaten his family. we'll do our best to make your voice famous. And this is the truth of how pit bulls were seen at the turn of the 20th century. Toro/provi, the post above explains that the first explicit mention of the nursemaid dog that can be found was in reference to the modern 1970s STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIERS and that reference was made by an American breeder of STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIERS.Ten years later, the first specific mention of a "nanny dog" that can be found was by a Canadian breeder of STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIERS says that in England a long time previous, STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIERS were called Nanny Dogs. Does it happen often? Rotting in the ground, not posing for cute photographs. You suggest that pit nutters used to be stupid enough to let their dogs alone with children, but they've wizened up since. Until the general breed shows strains of dogs with softer mouths and less volatile reactions I will presume that almost any pit bull breeder is breeding for an aggressive stain; whether it be dog or human aggression. That is the point. Ive had many since, and I find that it would be fairly hard to actually MAKE one of these dogs into a bad or aggressive dog.I dont expect you to change your mind by reading this but if you ever owned one or have been around a variety of them, you would almost have to second guess yourself.Oh and by the way, the majority of reported pitbull attacks are done by dogs that are not of any pitbull breed. Despite the fact that I know they exist and despite the fact that providing these reports would immediately remove any criticisms on the nanny dog." Nanny is a well deserved name, oh my, you are too stupid for words. We made sure to train her and socialize her well. Thank you, BAD RAP Help! in case it returns, here are few points now that i have had time to re-read the nanny dog blog post, hopefully, it will answer its questions:american pit bull terrier is listed 2 times in this blog.while the staffordshire bull terrier is listed 17 times.also please note the third comment (mine):"the nanny dog myth originated [with] the staffy bull and the american nutters happily adopted it. i will most likely publish them. PROOF! It took about 16 years for the story to mutate into the Nanny dog of England - historic fighter and lover of children. i contributed some images, that's it. The nanny dog was a figment of people's imaginations based on pictures, not documents. "There is perhaps no more beautiful illustration of the results of artificial selection than is provided in the history of the bulldog. "The irony is that people like him support some of the same things Hitler did. (search & rescue, seeing eye dogs..etc) Surly you don't think those ones are evil to. Both sides who promote only this are wrong in my opinion.Once people can come to terms with their breed and stop making them godlike then maybe we can have a happier world of pits and people. clearly you are not able to comprehend the basics. We need to reference this as often as possible people!! The Nanny Dog argument is no longer valid in the way that Mrs. Rant used it in 1971 when the general public was not aware of contemporary dog fighting. Gullible? We only sell to family homes. Some were used as nanny dogs used by people to watch ther kids, according to Hassett. now let's see if you have the courage to read the TRUTH about the ATTS. this obviously isn't a chained/neglected pit bull. Don't go on and rant about how I put it in metaphorically with a weapon. But maybe that's why she changed it. But do you honestly think that's a valid excuse for the pit bull to kill and maim more than any other breed regardless of ow the dog is treated? Like that you HAVE to have insurance, and if your a convicted felon you shouldn't be allowed to own the breed, and i don't think they should be allowed at dog parks. i am not exactly sure what the nutter means by pit bull holocaust. We have a new Maul Talk term courtesy "mward"http://maultalk.wordpress.com/2011/12/06/children-are-going-to-die-in-bsl/. You really are a retard. CHILDREN are going to die in BSL cities today because this blog continues to add fuel to the fire. Not every dog is going to kill or attack. a good friend of mine has a 3 year old daughter who loves him to death, he keeps her out of trouble and entertained... you blog out of ignorance and spite you obviously dont know anything about genetics, dogs, or people for that matter. The ranch dog comment was in response to another poster that stated they were never intentionally bred for any other purpose. The Nanny Dog Myth DogsBite.org - A new blog, "The Truth About Pit Bulls," launched Tuesday with contributors CKing and Craven Desires. Are people really that desperate to prove they're right about something they they red herrings and move goal posts? Why do you think that people are pissed at your community and pit bulls? I've often thought it would be great for a network to add another 'Myth Busters' show, but rather than a program of engineering tests to explore these legends, the second edition of Myth Busting would show the historical back testing needed to debunk revisionist history and contrived accounts, crafted to support false premise and agenda. Close to nothing, right? i assume that you don't understand it or you didn't even read it because you not refuting its content, you only shooting your mouth off. haters gonna hate... my APBT is great with children... Also, A DOG IS A GOOD AS IT'S OWNER... NO MATTER WHAT. But then ..."My Pitbull is a baby. That is just one obvious connection.You are just repeating the animal aggression is not human aggression point as a mantra. I've meet many extremely well behaved and well socialized pits (I lived in South Florida and good pits well out numbered bad labs and shepherds at the dog park), but abusers and haters give these dogs a bad name. but there are so many breeders who believe "perfection" is preserving the gameness and tenacity of the pit bull. Someone has already mentioned this to me before and I've since tackled your point. Please discuss! It was stated that during the 19th century that pitbulls were used as nanny dogs. Dani, how old is your "pit bull"?as to your comment about them only attacking when abused, chained, neglected etc - don't be so gullible. He is the best dog. pay the fees for mangled pets instead of removing their dog temporarily or running from the scene; as well as stop blaming generally benign animal victim. And why do you think that " because a parent allowed it, it must be safe." These matches were held for the entertainment of the struggling classes; a source of relief from t… Ask and ye shall receive! @ Cory"There's plenty of mention of it on the internet or you could go to the library and do some real research. And who said anyone here was out to kill these dogs? 'Nanny Dog' could be Episode 1. This term was a recent invention created to describe the myriad of vintage photos of children enjoying their family pit bulls, (see link for details about vintage photos). In the UK we have 'Nanny Dogs' and they are Staffordshire Bull Terriers'. Secondly you prove no proof from the supposed time period (1800's-1940's) of the dog being called a "nanny dog." ""There's plenty of mention of it on the internet or you could go to the library and do some real research. "You want balance? birdy13, yes i am familiar all of the nanny dog propaganda on the internet.i especially like this oneConsidered a first class guard dog in Japan, Japanese mothers would often leave their children in the family Akita's care. No... do they kill at least one person a year? Of those individuals pit bulls have had 173 dogs involved to my recent count. Thanks for clearing this up for me. So you decided not to post my previous comment..was it too factual for your liking or what? The Nanny Dog Myth Revealed UPDATE 5/21/13: Two years and nine months after the Nanny Dog Myth Revealed was first published, BAD RAP, a major pit bull advocacy group publicly announced that it will no longer support the Nanny Dog myth because it endangers children. I'm not the one trying to dispel a so called myth while admitting that my research was limited. Why so much about general research about the "pit bull" when the nanny dog is specifically the English Staffordshire Bull Terrier.2. Every breed is special and requires a certain owner. American children killed by pit bull dogs - 2010Jacob Bisbee2 years old/Concord CAJuly 22, 2010Family pit bullsSavannah Gragg9 years old/ Kokomo INJune3, 2010Family pit bullNathan Aguirre2 years old/San Bernardino CAMay 27, 2010Family pit bullThomas James Carter Jr.7 days old/Port Richey FLApril 14, 2010Family pit bullJane Doe5 days old/Conyers GAFebruary 23, 2010Family pit bullAnastasia Bingham5 years old/Terry MSFebruary 12, 2010Neighbor’s pit bullsOmar Martinez3 years old/Apple Valley CAJanuary 9, 2010Family pit bull, American Children killed by pit bull dogs - 2009Destiny Marie Knox16 months old/Union County MSNovember 5, 2009Baby sitter’s pit bullMatthew Clayton Hurt2 years old/Prescott AROctober 28, 2009Neighbor’s pit bullsColten Smith19 months old/Delhi CAOctober 23, 2009Baby sitter’s pit bullsJasmine Deane23 months old/Orange County VASeptember 27, 2009Family pit bullJohn Doe3 days old/Rio WVAugust 15, 2009Family pit bullGabrial Mandrell-Sauerhage3 years old/Johnson City ILJune 27, 2009Family pit bullJustin Clinton10 years old/Levertett’s Chapel TXJune 15, 2009Pits owned by friend’s familyLeonard Lovejoy Jr.11 months old/Eastpointe MIApril 22, 2009Family pit bullIzaiah Gregory Cox7 months old/San Antonia TXMarch 31, 2009Family pit bullTyson Miller18 months old/Luling TXMarch 26, 2009Pit bull being kept by family for a friendCheyenne Peppers5 years old/Thomasville GAJanuary 6, 2009Family pit bull, American Children killed by pit bull dogs - 2008Alexander Adams2 years old/Las Vegas NVNovember 26, 2008Family pit bullLopeka Liptak2 months old/Waianae HIOctober 5, 2008Family pit bullKatya Todesco5 years old/Simi Valley CASeptember 26, 2008Neighbor’s pit bullCenedi Kia Carey4 months old/Las Vegas NVSeptember 12, 2008Family pit bullIsis Krieger6 years old/Anchorage AKAugust 14, 2008Family pit bullTony Evans Jr.3 years old/Jackson MSJune 22, 2008Neighbor’s pit bullPablo Lopez(Hernandez)5 years old/Weslaco TXJune 18, 2008Family pit bullJoshua Tanner Monk7 years old/Breckenridge TXMay 18, 2008Neighbor’s pit bullsJulian Slack3 years old/ Camp Lejune NCMay 14, 2008Family pit bull, American Children killed by pit bull dogs - 2007Holden Jernigan2 years old/Summerville SCDecember 13, 2007Family pit bullSeth Lovitt11 years old/Killeen TXNovember 7, 2007Family pit bullScott Warren6 years old/Dallas TXAugust 31, 2007Family pit bullZachary King JR.7 years old/ Minneapolis MNAugust 16, 2007Family pit bull Sabin Jones-Abbott6 years old/Bath NYJune 27, 2007Family pit bullDandre Fisher3 years old/Hunter Army Airfield GAMay 26, 2007Neighbor’s pit bullBrian Palmer1 year old/Charleston SCApril 27, 2007Family pit bullCarolina Sotello2 years old/Combine TXMarch 23, 2007Family pit bullRobynn Bradley2 years old/Lithonia GAFebruary 16, 2007Family pit bullAmber Jones10 years old/San Antonio TXJanuary 12, 2007Neighbor’s pit bull, American Children killed by pit bull dogs 2006 and one more from 2007, it is very difficult to cut and paste these names. @crave desires lies, what happen to my comment, you wouldn't post that shyt. All undone with a single article. " And I showed it was a myth.I not only showed that the "nanny dog" is a myth, if you'd read my blog post you would also see that people regarded these dogs as unsuitable for ladies - let alone children - because they were too aggressive. As editor of the club's magazine, she must have been at the center of all conversation about the breed. That would be like saying white people are involved in more crime then black in America. his comment about the 'nanny dog' is actually comical. From this I can assuredly state that you have NO documents that support your "fact" aside from some images you believe to be the word of god. Jeremy, David, and Provi are the three worst offenders here. Is a bite from a pomeranian to a baby dangerous? The list is just children killed by pit bulls. So many dogs of wildly differing appearance and behavior are described as 'pit bulls' that the term loses all meaning. the ATTS? '", Thomas, mother of two young children, said her eight Staffordshires are. It is up to you to prove that point.None of this has to do with the point of this post which is that that pit bulls were never thought of as fighting nanny dogs. Second, what does attempting to breed pit bulls as "ranch dogs" have to do with nanny dogs? Resources to help you help your Blocky dog. One example does not the majority make. We're not talking about a wet nurse here, the term was used because they stuck to the kids like glue and provided constant companionship... much like a nanny would. 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